Seven Year After No Feeling Is Final: How is Honor doing??
“Dearest Honor, I listened to your podcast last night. I couldn't stop crying. I have never felt so understood in all my life. I had given up hoping I might ever hear it spoken by another person who isn't just trying to imagine but who knows. Truly thank you, it means so much.”
Hello again dear listener. It’s me! Honor! From the future!
Spoooooky.
It’s now been seven years since we made No Feeling Is Final (good lord). In that time, I've gotten so many incredible messages like that one above. People who've just finished the show for the first, second, or even third time, and found themselves crying in ever more unlikely places:
"Quietly crying on the train listening to No Feeling Is Final. So grateful this exists."
“Your brave and brilliant podcast has made me cry in the ocean and in the courtyard at work. Ready and waiting to cry in some fantastic new location ❤️”
"I listened to ep 2 twice in a row while I cried and harvested potatoes this morn. Over the last few years, your voice has kept me company for countless hours in various veggie patches, and it's truly helped me to learn and grow into a happier, more compassionate and (self) loving being, so THANK YOU 🙏"
I even heard from some listeners who found the podcast while they were in psych hospital themselves. Smuggling me in like a little bit of audio contraband on the ward:
"I'm in inpatient again and listening to this podcast has been the most freeing thing. To hear there are others out there who experience life and all of the big ass feels like I do is incredible."
You said it, sister.
It's an overwhelming experience to get so many messages like these. 'Overwhelming' doesn't even quite cut it. But GOOD overwhelming, y'know?
For the longest time I've wanted to write a kind of follow up to everyone who listened. To all my train and ocean and veggie-patch cryers out there. To offer something up at the end of this experience. To say, 'hello! I see you!'
We just found out that in May 2025, seven years after the show came out, Apple has picked No Feeling Is Final as one of their 'Essential Podcasts' of all time. What's that mean? Apple says "these series are the pinnacle of podcasting and we celebrate them as some of the medium's greatest achievements."
Well gosh.
So this seems as good a time as any to give you a little update. I know when I've engaged with stuff like this, something that ends without a neat bow, I want to know HOW ARE THEY? HOW ARE THEY REALLY??
I don't want to keep you in too much suspense. So the short version is: I'm good! Truly! Maybe as good as I've ever been?
*knocks on a small forest-worth of wood*
If you wanna know more than that, read on my friend. Because, um, A LOT HAS HAPPENED!! :)
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The problem with endings
"Endings, endings everywhere." So says a younger me, in the final episode of No Feeling Is Final, my mental health memoir podcast.
Back then, writing that last episode, I had a creative conundrum, which is also really a life conundrum. How do you write 'the ending' to a story you're still living? How do you wrap your story up in a nice neat bow, when if you're honest with yourself you're still drowning in ribbon?
Because the truth is, when I pitched No Feeling Is Final to the ABC (the original pitch started with a cold open asking the eternal question: "should I take my vibrator to hospital?" – start how you mean to go on I guess??) I was still in a place of 'can I stay alive right now?' I didn't TELL them that at the time of course. Instead I made careful use of the past tense to imply this would be a simple story of how I wrestled with my brain and lived to tell the tale. Hero's journey and all that.
But after the show got picked up and I found myself writing that last episode just six months later, I still didn't have 'The Answer'. I felt pretty good, because I was working on a project I really deeply believed in. But I also knew that, at any time, I could go right back to Doom Town.
Back To Doom Town
If I'm completely honest, back in 2018 I was pretty convinced that - as had happened so often before - once I finished making No Feeling Is Final, a deeply demanding, deeply satisfying creative project, I'd be left spiralling back into depression for months on end.
And you know what? That is pretty much what happened. (I had become pretty good at sensing my internal patterns, it turns out.)
But I didn't stay there.
In fact, once I managed to climb out of that post-show hole, the next few years after No Feeling Is Final came out were among the most stable (and successful!) I've had my whole life.
Then things got hard again (real hard). Then… well, keep reading and see? Let's just say things took a very unexpected twist, mental health wise.
What happened after the show came out
This show has been such a crazy part of my life. We call it the "little podcast that could" - a show that was made by a small team down in Australia, and ended up not only touching so many people, but getting attention from The New York Times, The Atlantic, TIME Magazine, and even The Financial Times (who had THAT on their bingo card??).
We won a very fancy podcast award in the US, and even got to fly there to go to the award ceremony, just before Covid hit.
In January this year (2025), seven years after it was released, the AV Club inducted No Feeling Is Final into their “Podcast Canon”, and not long after that came the Apple announcement.
Making No Feeling - with Executive Producer Joel Werner (aka Pod Dad), Co-Writer Graham Panther (aka boyfriend Graham), and our Producer Alice Moldovan (‘send me thirty hours of random tape from your life, I won’t judge!’) - is still the most nourishing creative experience I've had in my life. I doubt I'll ever have anything quite like that again.
From the psych ward to… being quoted in parliament??
Since the series, I've kept on chugging along working in mental health… and well, it's been a wild ride and I've gotten to be part of some truly once-in-a-lifetime type of reforms.
After releasing the show, I ended up working as a senior advisor to the Royal Commission into Victoria's mental health system. This major enquiry was a huge deal to have happen in Victoria (my home state) and honestly it was kind of crazy to have gone from an inpatient five years prior to inside the machine as these big system changes were getting hashed out. My witness statement to the Commission, which covered a lot of what was in No Feeling Is Final, was even quoted on the first page of the report, and read out in parliament. Surreal to say the least.
For my work on No Feeling Is Final, the Royal Commission, and the Big Feels Club (the global club that boyfriend Graham and I run for anyone on the long term mental health path, more on that below!) I even won the 2021 Australian Mental Health Prize (alongside psychiatrist Professor Ian Hickie). It felt pretty strange to win this, alongside well, a famous psychiatrist who has a CV and high-level experience longer than my arm. Because of Covid, the award ceremony was on Zoom. Here’s a pic of Graham’s face when it got announced (I was hiding in the corner).
Tell any of that to little old mid-twenties Honor (or even late-twenties Honor) as she was just trying to find a psychiatrist who'd take her pain seriously, and I'm not sure what she would have made of any of this.
Tell it to the mean voice in my head back then and she would have said I was deluded. Truth be told, she still has a few things to say about it, ye olde mean voice.
‘Look at you, getting all this attention. Attention-seeking much?’
(Thanks darling, always keeping my feet on the ground.)
No Feeling: LIVE??
In 2022, I made the podcast into an all singing, all dancing (okay no actual dancing) live show for The Big Anxiety Festival at The Capitol Theatre in Melbourne. We had more than 600 people in the audience. It was just little old me on stage.
Graham says I turned into "a literal comet on stage, right in front of everyone." I think he means I did good?
Here’s a pic. Aka the most rockstar pic I could ever hope for:
Honestly this live version of No Feeling is probably one of the most outrageous projects I've done ("yes let's perform an experimental memoir about being suicidal live and onstage in front of 600 people"). I'm now working on developing that performance into something I can tour. If you work with an org or arts org that might be interested in putting on a performance of this work - even if you are outside Australia, do get in touch?
How I'm really doing, mental health wise
Okay, time for the BIG question. The real goss you probably came here for (or at least, what *I’d* most want to know if I’d just listened to the podcast.)
How am I doing now, really??
It’s been seven years since the show came out, and…
I'm doing pretty well! At the moment, really well. But I'm also aware (acutely aware) of how fragile my mental health still is, or can be.
Simply put, I function, I have fun, I have friends who better yet I actually SEE regularly, instead of avoiding and feeling ever more guilty about. These days this even includes a small handful of really close people who I feel like I can be more honest with than I ever used to be, including about when and if I'm struggling. That’s been something I’ve wanted for as long as I can remember, and definitely didn’t happen overnight.
I have a career, a wonderful partner (still Graham!), a vegetable garden (or at least some container pots with herbs in various states of 'having gone to seed').
I have bucketloads more stability than I used to in pretty much all these areas. And yet, of course, I don't know that my mental health will never not have that Main Character Energy in my life.
Maybe there'll always be a part of me looking back over my shoulder for what's going happen next, mental health wise?
I think of it as kind of a bit like PTSD for my own brain. Those dark Doom Town experiences have been my number one fear in a way that has also made them a driving force in my life. They are an orientating force that the rest of my life operates around.
It has taken me 20 years to get to this point of significant stability. Maybe it will take me at least another 20 to incrementally find peace with it. And maybe that just makes sense, when you think about it.
Crunching the numbers
Recently, I actually crunched the numbers. When I look back at the past 15 years (I'm 35 now), my 20s were quite shite. I think I spent about 4 years of my 20s in the actively suicidal, really struggling space. This was in chunks of about 6 months or more at a time. As you can imagine, that was not awesome, and it actually got worse as I got older (I think 25-30 was probably some of the worst of it. I made No Feeling when I was 29).
By contrast, the 30-35 bracket has been on the whole better than the 5 years before that, even if I’ve definitely still had my moments.
It’s funny, because in this more ‘stable’ period I’ve also had some really big life stuff come my way, non mental health category. First, I got quite sick with a chronic issue that really disrupted my day to day life. Read a bit about that here if you’re interested, in a piece I wrote for Big Feels Club.
Then, about eighteen months back, just as my own health was improving, two members of my family got very sick at the same time. Like, life or death sick. (We got the diagnoses - unrelated - on the very same day.) I won't go into more detail as those aren't my stories, but it was and has been, in the words of the podcast, another “extraordinary time”, to say the least.
Amidst all the many challenges of this experience with my family, it’s reminded me of a strength I didn’t totally realise I had. I’ve realised that I am kind of good at this existential stuff? At hanging out in this liminal, limbo land. At periods of life where small talk feels acrid in your mouth, and sitting in silence feels natural.
I’m good at it because I’ve had to sit in some deeply uncertain places. It doesn’t make everything okay when big life stuff hits again - internal or external. But it’s something.
Daring To Hope For Better
Still, there's also been recent moments that have thrown me. Just last year, I had a period of a few months which were honestly quite scary, dispiriting. After not being in that Doom Town space for 3-4 years, I was, despite all my best efforts, descending back there.
After a few months circling that existential drain again, flirting with a full-blown relapse into Doom Town, the realisation I had was this: I had gotten pretty good at feeling somewhat better. I had added so many tools to my toolkit, I had a kind of mastery - at least compared to my younger self - of all the many things I was struggling with.
But I still wasn't BETTER better. And I wanted to be! As I wrote about for Big Feels Club at the time, I so dearly wanted it to not be such a struggle all the time.
So I tried something I thought I'd given up on…
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Asking for help again, and an unexpected twist
In that most recent spiral late last year, things got so bad again that suddenly things I hadn't considered in a long time were back on the table. Including, finally, going back to see a psychiatrist - something I hadn’t done in several years.
I spent hours on the phone to unhelpful receptionists citing various eligibility requirements and with "A Beautiful Mind"-esque spreadsheet of various clinics, treatments offered, cost, etc. It all felt like an awful flashback to episode 2's "Are You Crazy Enough?" gameshow scene. Eventually Graham nudged me to do the awkward-as-hell thing and ask a well-connected colleague for help in this quest, which was much more fruitful (and a sad reflection of our system).
But my new psychiatrist is calm and patient and a good listener.
I actually chose this particular psychiatrist because I figured, having tried all the standard treatments, I needed something new. Something leftfield. He specialises in psychedelic therapy, among other such not-so-standard things, which I'm fascinated by.
But then the strangest thing happened. The very standard thing he suggested I try first - a humble antidepressant - actually helped.
Before long, that existential plughole I’d been circling for months faded from view again. And I thought, well this is interesting…
If you've listened to all of No Feeling Is Final you may remember in ep 4 I give a long play-by-play of my experience of psych meds. Over many years and MANY drugs tried, the results had been very underwhelming. Basically, I'd never found anything effective, and I'd had a bunch of side effects.
For the longest time, I’d felt like my inability to respond to psych meds just reinforced that feeling of being uniquely fucked up. And then, in more recent years, I guess that had softened to something more wistful, like: well I’m glad they work for some people, but not for me I guess.
So it’s a strange feeling, finding one that’s actually helping. I’m still a little afraid to talk about it publicly, for fear of jinxing it.
(For those of you now thinking 'why isn't she naming the specific drug???' I'm not trying to hold out on you. I just know that if I name it specifically, I risk sending you down a rabbit hole that may not actually help you, because this stuff is so individual, and I know other people who haven’t found this same drug especially useful. Suffice to say, it's a third generation antidepressant - so one that wasn’t around back when I was doing my ‘full menu of psych drugs’ degustation ten years ago.)
Because of course, as any of you also on the long term path will know, it’s hard to trust the answers you find. It’s hard not to think that this ‘answer’ will change on me, like so many others have over the years.
This is such a central part of the long term mental health experience, that doesn’t get talked about enough: uncertainty. Even when things are going well. It’s something we deliberately tried to write into No Feeling Is Final. At the end of each ep, we wanted the listener to feel like ‘oh okay, Honor’s finally found The Answer’, only for the very next episode to reveal that each new ‘answer’ had its own limitations.
The long and winding road
There are so many twists and turns on the long term mental health path, and no one gives us any kind of map. (Or when they do, the maps don’t match the road at all!)
But you know what? Despite all this, for now I remain nervously optimistic that this latest answer I’ve found is something genuinely useful - one more thing to put in my backpack of useful things.
And whatever happens next, I’m proud of myself for staying on this winding, twisting and turning path.
It’s so much trying isn’t it? So many pep talks to give yourself to keep at it, to try the next new thing (which might in fact be an old thing you’d long ago given up on, but are circling back to again out of sheer desperation, without high hopes).
If the profound response we got to No Feeling Is Final taught me one thing, it’s how important it is to SHARE this uncertainty. To be HONEST about it. To share these messy mental health stories that don’t have one clear takeaway, but are instead more human stories. Just messy humans doing our best.
Big Feels Club: For those of us on the long-term mental health path
This is also exactly why we made the Big Feels Club - our exclusive little club for people on the winding long term mental health path. As a kind of antidote to those well-meaning but overly simplistic mental health narratives out there (Just ask for help! It’s so easy!)
Because when you’re on that winding path yourself, it is simply so important to be able to see others on the long term path with you. Not because they have the answer you’re missing. But because we’re all in it together, nudging each other along that path. Calling out from just up around that next bend, just to say, ‘Hey! You! I see you! I see how hard you’re trying! And I’m still here too!’
In the seven years since No Feeling Is Final, boyfriend Graham and I have taken Big Feels Club - the funny little mental health initiative we mention in the second to last episode - from being a tiny experiment in collective feelings run out of Graham's living room, to being a thriving community of 7,000 big feelers across Australia and the world.
Our monthly newsletter aims to 'tell the truth about mental health, in a way that's still encouraging'.
It's a truly special community of fellow travellers, walking the long term mental health path together (and so many club members found us through No Feeling!).
Big Feels Club is where Graham and I both write about our mental health experiences from the inside, where we try to answer that eternal question: I've already asked for help and I still feel awful… now what??
(Side note: in the show, Graham comes across as 'the one who has his shit together'. But the truth is, he's an anxious and deeply sensitive bunny himself. As if you couldn't guess?)
Still wondering what 'a club for people with big feelings' even is? You can read all about Big Feels and how you can get involved here, in this little letter Graham wrote especially for No Feeling Is Final listeners.
What's next?
If you want to keep in touch with me and my work, the best way is to sign up to the monthly Big Feels Club newsletter (Link below).
You'll be part of a community of thousands of big feelers around the world, nudging each other along the long term mental health path. In our newsletter (and other occasional experiments, like online meet ups) Graham and I dive into the messy realities of mental health, share our own journeys, and create a space where struggling isn't seen as failing - it's just part of being human.
You'll also get very occasional updates on my other weird art experiments (like if we ever end up touring the No Feeling live show to a town near you??) if and when they happen :)
Okay, that’s all from me for now!
Thanks to Graham Panther who helped me write this piece. And a BIG thanks to you for reading it.
I will leave you with something Graham and I are trying to add to the standard 'just reach out' mental health week type messaging around mental health:
We see how hard you're trying.
It's so much trying sometimes, isn't it? But it's not just you.
xx Honor
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